Clean Sport Collective

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The Clean Sport Collective is a community of powerful voices comprised of athletes, brands, events, clubs, fans and the public to support the pursuit of clean sport and athletics through the absence of performance enhancing drugs. With this podcast, we will celebrate clean athletes, educate you on issues in the world of clean sport, and bring hope that we can all believe in the power of fair play across all sports.

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Last updated on May 28, 2020, 3:02 pm

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Episode #17: Performance Enhancing Footwear? A Panel Discussion with Kara Goucher, Ryan Hall, and Alex Hutchinson

October 27, 2019 • 54m

In this episode, we switch gears from talking about the unfair advantage created by the use of performance enhancing drugs to potential unfair advantage created by the use of performance enhancing footwear.  Host Chris McClung leads a panel discussion with Kara Goucher, Alex Hutchinson, and Ryan Hall to discuss the implications of shoe technology in light of recent performances by Eliud Kipchoge (who broke 2 hours in the marathon) and Brigid Kosgei (who now owns the world record in the marathon for women).  Kara Goucher (@karagoucher), of course, is co-host of the show and is an elite-level US distance runner who competed in the Olympics twice for the US at the 10,000 meter and marathon distances. She owns a silver medal from the World Championships in the 10,000 meters and has finished 3rd place at both the NYC and Boston Marathons.   Alex Hutchinson (@sweatscience) earned his PhD in Physics from the University of Cambridge, and has been writing his Sweat Science column for over 10 years exploring the science behind running and performance. Previously with Runner's World and now with Outside magazine, he continues his pursuit of the truth on the science of sport. In Alex's recent book - Mind, Body, and the Curiously Elastic Limits of Human Performance - he also covered Eliud Kipchoge's first attempt to break the 2 hour barrier in the marathon.  Ryan Hall (@ryanhall3) is a two-time Olympian and the fastest ever US marathoner with a PR of 2:04:58 and also the current US half marathon record holder. He also now the coach of his wife Sara Hall who just ran a marathon PR of 2:22 at Berlin and who will be competing to earn a spot on the Olympic Marathon team in Atlanta next February. As an Asics athlete, Sara is potentially disadvantaged by not having access to the same shoe technology that facilitated these recent breakthrough performances.   In this discussion, we get reactions from all of the panelists on the performances of Kipchoge and Kosgei and the shoes that led to them, plus talk about what should be done (or not) to regulate this technology in order to level the playing field. This is a complicated topic that requires leadership and transparency from the IAAF, and we appreciate the level-headed and balanced discussion from Kara, Alex, and Ryan.

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Episode #32: Emily Sisson, 2:23 Marathoner (Fastest US Debut)

February 09, 2020 • 58m

In this episode, Kara and Chris interview Emily Sisson as we continue our series in the build-up to the Olympic Marathon Trials in Atlanta on February 29th. Emily has had success at every level from high school state champion to 2-time NCAA champion and now 2-time US Champion on the roads in the 5K and 10K. Perhaps more impressive, however, was her first marathon last spring in London where she ran 2:23 to clock the fastest debut ever by an American on a record-eligible course.  In this interview, we talk about her start in sport playing soccer and how that led to her rapid rise as a runner. She talks about her progression through high school and college and how she made the decision to turn pro. She gives insight into what she has learned from training partner Molly Huddle through the years and what it was like running so fast and beating Molly in the same marathon in London. Emily is down to earth and straight forward on the "pressure" that comes with her new status as a fast marathoner and shares her training and mental approach for the upcoming Olympic Trials. As we conclude, Emily gives her perspective on clean sport and the great shoe debate, particularly discussing the challenges and pitfalls of speaking out on these topics as an athlete. Emily is still new to the marathon but sleep on her chances to make an Olympic team in Atlanta at your own peril. Go Emily! Note: this interview was recorded before the new shoe regulations were released by World Athletics.  

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Episode #16: Tyler Hamilton, Convicted Doper and Whistleblower in Cycling

October 20, 2019 • 62m

In a move that might surprise you, we bring on Tyler Hamilton for episode #16. Tyler Hamilton is a former cyclist who received two doping bans while competing and then would eventually be compelled to testify against Lance Armstrong in the federal case against him.  Tyler started his sporting career as a ski racer until a freak back injury ended his skiing career. After the injury, he turned to cycling and quickly began a rapid and unexpected rise to become a professional cyclist. Racing in Europe for the first time, he quickly became indoctrinated in the doping culture, taking a red testosterone pill after a race in 1997 which led to much bigger and darker decisions down the road.  Tyler would go on to be one of Lance's support riders in 3 of his Tour de France wins, then lead his own Tour teams and win an Olympic gold medal, all while continuously upping the stakes with his use of performance enhancing drugs (PEDs) and techniques. Shanna and Kara interview Tyler to talk about his story from what he was thinking when he first crossed the line with PEDs to what it was like to come clean and break the omertá, cycling's unwritten code of silence.  In this interview, you will hear the very human story of a good person who made many bad choices and who is now trying to make amends by educating the next generation with the truth. Telling the truth has not always been easy or convenient for Tyler, but we are very thankful that he shared his story with us.  You can read more about Tyler's story in his book - The Secret Race: Inside the Hidden World of the Tour de France: Doping, Cover-ups, and Winning at All Costs.

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Episode #26: Steve Magness, Nike Oregon Project Whistleblower

January 05, 2020 • 65m

We are excited to kick off a new decade of fighting for clean sport with this powerful episode. Some use the word whistleblower, but we prefer to use the word truth-teller to describe our next guest - Steve Magness. Steve was a precocious talent as a runner in high school and college with a 4:01 personal best in the mile. Along the way, he developed an interest in coaching and that led him down a path to become an assistant coach alongside Alberto Salazar at the Nike Oregon Project (NOP). Little did he know that joining the NOP would change his life forever because of what he saw and experienced there. Chris and Kara talk with Steve about those experiences including his initial impressions of Salazar and the early warning signs that his methods might be suspicious. We discuss what led Steve to be a guinea pig in Salazar's experiments with L-Carnitine injections, including Steve's long-time relationship with Dr. Brown (who administered the injections) that dated back to his high school years. We learn about the moment that Steve decided that he had to leave the NOP and what it was like to come forward to USADA and eventually the public with the truth. From there, Steve shares his reactions to the doping bans handed down to Salazar and Dr. Brown as well as what he would like to see Nike do in order to dramatically change the culture in our sport for the better.  In this interview, Steve discusses stories and perspectives about his journey that we had never before heard. We can't thank him enough for everything he has done to tell the truth, do what's right, and therefore make a huge difference in the fight for clean sport in spite of the risk of great personal sacrifice.    

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Episode #12: Alysia Montaño, 6-time US 800m Champion and World Bronze Medalist

September 22, 2019 • 56m

With this week's episode, we follow one badass female track field athlete with another. Chris and Kara interview mom and 800m specialist Alysia Montaño (@alysiamontano) in a wide-ranging and emotional interview. Alysia is a 6-time US Champion in the 800 and also owns 3 Bronze medals from 3 different World Championships. Unfortunately, 2 of those medals came via "medal upgrade" after drug cheat Mariya Savinova was convicted of doping violations. Alysia is finally due to receive those medals in a medal ceremony coming up next week at the 2019 World Championships in Doha. In the interview, Alysia discusses the numerous challenges she has faced in track and field in spite of her success, including a contract pay reduction after only 1 year as a pro, competing against and being "robbed" by drug cheats, having her pay suspended during and after pregnancy, and the 6 and 9-year wait to finally receive the medals she earned in 2011 and 2013.  Alysia talks about how the IAAF and the other powers-that-be in this sport have let her down and the trauma that it has caused her financially and emotionally. She also provides her perspective on what needs to change to protect clean athletes and female athletes who decide to start a family (#dreammaternity). Alysia is real, honest, and brave in sharing her truth. Her story provides powerful perspective on why we need to elevate her voice for the sake of protecting current and future athletes from the challenges she has faced.

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Episode #22: Emma Coburn, Steeplechase World Champion

December 01, 2019 • 53m

In this episode, Shanna and Kara interview steeplechase World Champion Emma Coburn.  Emma is an athlete that really needs no introduction, but for those that don't know, Emma is a 3-time global championship medalist. She won the bronze medal in 2016 at the Rio Olympics. She won the gold medal in London at the 2017 World Championships, and she followed that with the silver medal at the 2019 World Championships in Doha, Qatar. Emma attended the University of Colorado where she earned three NCAA championships, two in the steeplechase and one in the indoor mile. She also own eight US championships in the steeplechase where she has been the dominant force since 2011. In this interview with Emma, Shanna and Kara cover a wide range of topics from her beginnings as an athlete in the small mountain town of Crested Butte to what it's like to compete on the world stage against the best of the best. Emma talks about what she learned while running at the University of Colorado, what it's like to be coached by her husband Joe, the positive dynamic within her current training group, her secrets to consistency, and what she does to stay busy outside of running (hint: www.elkrun5k.com). Emma discusses when she realized that the playing field was tainted by potential drug cheats and how she approaches competing with that knowledge. In addition, she tells a crazy drug testing story from the Rio Olympics and gives you the names of two brands who support both her and clean sport.  Emma is an inspiring athlete, a clean sport advocate, and just an all-around great person. Listen in, be a fan, and buy from the brands that sponsor and support an athlete like her!  

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Episode #39: Aliphine Tuliamuk, Olympic Marathon Trials Champion

March 08, 2020 • 62m

It seems all too perfect for International Women's Day to fall on the same day as the release of this interview. For this episode, we are excited to talk with the new queen of US marathoning Aliphine Tuliamuk who won the US Olympic Marathon Trials last weekend in Atlanta to punch her ticket to Tokyo. Aliphine is a living example of the American dream. She's Kenya-born, one of 32 children, and moved to the US for college, becoming a US citizen in 2016. She now trains with team Hoka NAZ Elite under coach Ben Rosario. At the Trials, she and teammates Stephanie Bruce and Kellyn Taylor finished 1st, 6th, and 8th respectively to show the power of women working and training together. In this interview, Kara and Shanna chat with Aliphine and get to hear her story from her beginnings in Kenya all the way through the finishing tape in Atlanta as an American Champion. Aliphine discusses adapting to life in the US, her collegiate career, transitioning to pro running without a contract for the first several years, almost quitting a few times, and surviving several major injuries before finally finding her home at NAZ Elite. Yes, she is a fast runner, but she is so much more than that as a bright light in our sport. You will see what we mean when you listen to Aliphine talk about her desire to be a nurse or when she discusses clean sport and the young girls she wants to inspire at the finish line of the NYC Mini 10K. We couldn't be more proud to have Aliphine representing the US in the Tokyo Olympics this summer!

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Episode #21: Amelia Boone, 4-Time OCR World Champion

November 24, 2019 • 55m

We were very honored to sit down with Amelia Boone in New York City just before the marathon in a room full of gold shoes in the basement of Mile High Run Club. Amelia is not only a 4-time World Champion in the sport of obstacle course racing (OCR), but even more impressively, she did it while maintaining a full-time job as a corporate lawyer. With this episode, Shanna and Chris interview Amelia to talk about her meteoric rise from 1st-timer to OCR World Champion. We discuss her background in sport and the keys to her championships including the grit and determination that drives her. We dig into why Amelia decided to come forward about her struggles with an eating disorder and what her ongoing recovery looks like day to day. From there, we talk about the sport of OCR and how it's evolved since Amelia did her first race in 2011, including the clean sport culture and testing protocols (or lack thereof). She gives valuable insight into what events and sponsors should be doing to help the cause. Near the end, Amelia shares a lawyer's perspective on who she believes is the real MVP for Nike in the great shoe debate regarding the Nike Vapor Fly. Amelia has a positive energy that is infectious and we dare you to listen to this one without smiling. Thank you to Amelia for sharing your story.  For additional reading/listening, here is Amelia's initial public blog discussing her recovery from an eating disorder: http://www.ameliabooneracing.com/blog/uncategorized/therecoveryineeded/   And here is the 2-hour Rich Roll podcast where she covers that topic in much more depth: https://www.richroll.com/podcast/amelia-boone-475/

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Episode #11: Allyson Felix, 26-time Olympic and World Championship Medalist

September 15, 2019 • 37m

Allyson Felix (@allysonfelix) should need no introduction. She is the most decorated track athlete of all-time, male or female, with 26 global championship medals. As a sprinter who focuses on the 200m, 400m, and relay events, she has won 18 gold medals including gold medals at 3 different Olympic Games (2008, 2012, 2016). She has won the Jesse Owens Award given to the top USATF athlete each year a record 5 times. Off the track, Allyson is active in advocating for women and youth sports and serves on the Right to Play Board of Directors. In this episode, we begin with a quick introduction on her background in sport and then dive into two topics on which Allyson's voice is so important: maternity rights and clean sport.   She discusses how being a mom has motivated her to speak out on topics such as these. She provides her thoughts on what more can be done to protect female athletes during and after their pregnancies. In addition, we talk about the current culture within sprinting regarding the use of performance-enhancing drugs and what more can be done to create a level playing field. She also gives her perspective on the Christian Coleman case and why missing a drug test is such a big deal, including a story about her one and only missed test while taking an exam at USC.   At the end, we discuss Allyson's new sponsorship deal with Athleta and what she is doing to try to make another Olympic team in Toyko 2020.    We want to thank Allyson for her strong and clear perspectives on these two very important topics and for her willingness to use her voice. We need more athletes like Allyson who are willing to speak out.    Check out this link for Allyson's op-ed in the NY times on maternity rights and her contract dispute with Nike, her former sponsor:   https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/22/opinion/allyson-felix-pregnancy-nike.html

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Episode #20: Mary Cain Tells Us Her Story

November 17, 2019

In 2012, Mary Cain set the US High School record in the 1500m at the World Junior Championships running 4:11. Later that year, she got a call from Alberto Salazar who invited her to come train with the Nike Oregon Project (NOP). She was 16 years old. After joining the NOP, she had initial success that belied her age including a remarkable run in 2014 when she won the 1500m at the US Indoor Championships, finished 2nd to Jenny Simpson at the US Outdoor Championships, and then capped an amazing year winning the 3000m at the World Junior Championships. From there, her experience took a dark and heartbreaking turn that would ultimately cause her to leave the NOP for reasons that only recently have been made public. On November 7th, Mary came forward to share her story of weight shaming and emotional abuse during her time with Salazar and the NOP in this NY Times video op-ed.    Kara and Shanna lead this powerful interview with Mary as she gives more details about her time with Alberto Salazar and the NOP. She talks about that initial phone call from Salazar and her subsequent decision to join the Nike Oregon Project. She tells the story about when Salazar first discussed her weight with her right after she won the 3000m at the World Junior Championships. From there, she details how her weight became Salazar's near-constant obsession, leading her to feel like something was wrong with her. Isolated and ashamed, she discusses how workouts and races became increasingly difficult as she struggled to meet the unrealistic expectations put on her and her body. She talks about how no one reached out or stood up for her until she finally made the decision to tell her parents about her struggles. From there, you will hear about the tension between her misdirected love for Alberto and the terrible actions against her, along with what ultimately caused her to come forward and what she hopes happens next.   We believe and support Mary Cain and consider her a hero for telling her story. We thank her for shining the spotlight not only on a broken system at Nike, "the global leader of sport", but also on how positions of power in sport can create an unhealthy view on bodyweight and performance. 

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